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Title: Observation: A New GL / SAW for SAF in the works?


southpark - August 8, 2004 05:16 AM (GMT)
While the SAF has adopted the SAR-21 since 1999, it appears to have resisted the adoption of the SAR-21 M203 variant.

- Does it suggest a new GL is in the offing (as suggested by ST Engg's SSW)?
- Or will SAF adopt bullet-trapped rifle-fired grenades? (the Israelis are using both M203 and rifle-fired grenades)
- If the SSW is adopted, would it not create logistical problems since its secondary weapon is not of 5.56mm but based on the 5.7mm ammo meant for P90?

Ditto for the SAW (Ultimax100) since the SAR-21 magazines do not appear to be compatible with the SAW.
- A modification / upgrade for U100?
- Adoption of the SAW version of the SAR-21?
- A complete new offering?

Cheers

Southpark
The Dude

|-|05| - August 8, 2004 09:53 AM (GMT)
the SSW is no way set...so the ammo might not be a 5.7mm bullet.Anyway the SSW is meant to compliment the platoon's firepower....so i think it just might replace the m203

southpark - August 8, 2004 01:22 PM (GMT)
Or maybe this.....the difference b/w this and ST Engg's SSW is that this fires a high velocity round (the same rds used in the CS40 / Mk. 19 AGL) instead of ST Engg's low velocity (normal 40mm rds) and medium velocity rds (assumed ST Engg propriety).

Still under protype though....

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A KICKIN' 40MM SYSTEM
(Source: BlackWater Annual Shootout - AFJ)
Never one to disappoint at Shoot-outs, FNH USA took advantage of this year's gathering to introduce the company's new 40mm High-Impulse Weapon System (HIWS), dubbed the High-Velocity 40 (HV-40). This latest addition to FNH's HIWS line is a direct-fire grenade launcher — forget lobbing rounds downrange with this weapon.

Designed for use either as a stand-alone system or mounted as a modular undercarriage launcher, the HV-40 fires both the high-velocity rounds used in MK-19 automatic grenade launchers and the low-velocity ammo designed for M-79s and M-203s. The high-velocity rounds sail out to 2,000 meters, and have an effective engagement range of 600 meters.

Last year, some readers will recall, FNH introduced AFJ evaluators to a 76mm HIWS, which made for some interesting video of evaluators losing contact with the ground as they launched 2.2-pound payloads from the 3.3-pound 76mm round. This year's half-size cousin of the 76 HIWS looked far less formidable, but still left shooters knowing they had fired something out of the ordinary.

he folks at FNH are still refining the design of the prototype, proof-of-concept HV-40 unveiled at this year's Shoot-out. The system currently weighs about 17 pounds; its target weight is 15 pounds. It's 31 inches long and, without its sight, 9.25 inches high. A three-round, magazine-fed prototype is under development.

After firing some standard 40mm high-velocity training ammo (722 fps) from this shoulder-held weapon, our noble band of evaluator-warriors have one universal recommendation for FNH: reduce the weapon's recoil. Other than that, they loved it.

"A helluva kick, but it puts the 40mm right on target!" wrote one. "Excellent accuracy. The HIWS takes the 40mm round — designed for area-suppression fire — and turns it into a precision projectile."

Noted another: "A little rough, but it's only a prototype. It provides a useful 40mm capability in a portable system. Recoil is severe, but manageable. A better stock design is needed to improve ergonomics."

"Very hard recoil; not a fun gun to shoot," said another.

"Unbelievably accurate for a shoulder-fired grenade launcher," a fourth observed. "One hell of a kick, though."

In the final analysis, there was nearly universal agreement with the final evaluator's write-up: "A surprising recoil but amazingly accurate for a hand-held 40mm. It definitely has military applications."

Check out the video below

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