Found this on http://www.geocities.com/ptone50/WEAPONS.htm

Do we have this?

Description

The Krasnopol is a Russian-developed and Russian-produced semiactive laser-guided projectile designed to effectively defeat:

* armored vehicles;
* multiple rocket launchers;
* self-propelled (SP) artillery systems;
* command, control, communications, computers, and intelligence (C4I) centers;
* defensive fortifications;
* bridges; and
* rossings.


The fielding of the Krasnopol provides a tube artillery unit the following advantages. First, tube artillery units are capable of firing at individual targets (to include pinpoint targets such as tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, field fortifications) with a high probability of a first-round kill. Thus, the traditional requirement for an area fire or artillery barrage is eliminated. Second, a tube artillery unit can fire at group targets using the same gun settings computed relative to the center of mass of the group target. Third, the Krasnopol can be fired without meteorological and ballistic data at a range of ten to twelve kilometers.

The Krasnopol is produced in two variants. The 152-mm Krasnopol is a two-section projectile designed to operate with both towed (D-20, 2A36, 2A65 Msta-B) and SP (2S3 Akatsiya, 2S5 Giatsint, and 2S19 Msta-S) guns and howitzers. A major drawback to this round is the incompatibility with the autoloader of the 2S19 due to the projectile's length. The Krasnopol-M (152-mm/155-mm) was developed as a follow-on product improvement that is fully compatible with the 2S19 autoloader and enhances the capability for the projectile to be used with western-produced 155-mm howitzers. Figure 1 illustrates the comparative operational characteristics of the Krasnopol, Krasnopol-M, and the U.S. Copperhead laser-guided munitions. Both the Krasnopol and Krasnopol-M are superior to the Copperhead in the areas of range, projectile weight, targets engaged, attack profile, and operational field handling. However, there is a 15% range difference (three kilometers) between the Krasnopol and the Krasnopol-M.

more info and to see what it looks like here

http://sill-www.army.mil/FAMAG/Go_to_War_P.../kransnopol.pdf



:rolleyes:

There is no mentioning of Singapore having acquired this munition. In any case, I also doubt if Singapore would buy russian made stuff other than the already bought Igla SAM. The accuracy of the Geocities website is really questionable.

Great article nevertheless. Thanks

I disagree with you if you are saying it's a lousy system. SAF should look into buying this munition since it can be fired from M109 turret.


source: http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/krasnopol.shtml
The "Krasnopol" complex is intended to hit small ground targets with a shot done from artillery systems of 152mm caliber (D20, 2S3M ("Akatsia"), 2S19 ("Msta-S"), 2A65 ("Msta-B") or from artillery systems of 155mm caliber (M109 A2/A6 (USA), G5, G6 (Republic of South Africa), FH77B (Sweden), TRF1 (France) and others) while designating targets with the aid of a beam of the laser designator/rangefinder.

As distinction from conventional standard artillery projectiles which engage area targets, the "Krasnopol" ensures destruction of individual targets from the covered fire positions by the first shot without fire adjustment.

Hey, I never said it islousy, I was questioning the reliability of the Geocities site that states SAF already have Krasnopol. Kindly read my post above again :)

If they have a system like this in place imagine what it will mean for the new future combat soldier systems we are trying develop.

Imagine the following ...

As the section nears their objective they sight the platoon of enemy forces in small clearing, nestle around them are several apc tracks and 2 main battle tanks. The enemy seems to be hunkering down for the night, camoflaging their vehicles digging shell scrapes and posting out sentries.

The commander senses his section is too inadequate to take on such a large force give the signal to split up between himself and his 2ic. 2 forward sentries are placed with thermal imaging system activated to the left and right most, 1 sentry in the rear to guard the exit while the commander and his 2ic proceed about their deadly work.

The commander zooms in thru the optical lens on his helmet to take a reading of the target's coordinates and freezes the image, he looks to his wrist computer, it tells him the readout and also tells him the distance between himself and the target, he retakes 2 more readings just to make sure the coordinates are correct and that he team is not within the blast area, then he paints each of his target, his 2ic does the same.

Then they collate this information together on their wrist computers via "bluetooth" then sending it back to command in small burst transmission via satelite for fire mission then the section slowly backs away to witness the carnage. Four minutes later all hell breaks loose ...

LOL

I think it is happening today....without the Future Warrior stuff.

The teams need to identify and "laze" the target for a first-shot kill by the Krasnopol....

Incidentally, the idea of a "guided" arty round came from US's cancelled Copperhead programme....

The major technological hurdle of the programme / guided arty rd is that the guidance systems needs to be able to survive the shock and velocity of being shot from a 152 / 155mm gun.....

Southpark
The Dude

dun think so, look around at the saf discovery center and you will find a dummy mock up of a future infantry man complete with integrated helmet lens and wrist computer.

What's the integrated helmet and wrist computer for? to add more weight while running SOC issit?

I dun think is it unlikely , afterall it will not the first time we are getting Russian weaponary, Igla is one example.

As long is is good and cheap, why not?

Well, the arty Forward Observers and the Fire Support Officers will have to carry the extra Russian made laser designators to designate the targets for the Krasnopol rounds, other than their PDAs that they are carrying for sending firing coordinates to the Primus CPs.

I doubt the necessity of having the Krasnopol rounds. I rather see SAF obtain smart munitions in the likes of SADARM (U.S.), Smart155 (Germany), and Bonus (Sweden). That is not to say SAF haven't indeed purchased Krasnopol, just that why would SAF keep this quiet given that the Igla purchase was announced so loudly to the whole world. Another question is, does Singapore license build Igla as mentioned? The only missile I know of being license built is the Spike.

I think we also produce Armbrust. We bought both the licence and the rights to the technology I think.

Southpark
The Dude

I think once every section commanders have wrist computers and integrated helmets FO's will be a thing of the past, section commanders will be the FO's.

Also regarding comments on laser designators, can't these be integrated? Does it matter if it's russian or american?

My understanding is that a smart projectile in flight searches for a beacon to home in on. How does the projectile know the difference between an american or a russian beacon. What if during flight towards it's target a hundred other beacons suddenly lit up does it know which one to home it on?

I mean let say you were "lazing" the target and unknown to you a sentry spotted you and "lazed" you instead and while you were calling for a fire mission, is the projectile in trajectory smart enough to home in on the correct target or dumb enough to pick the nearest beacon "YOU"

Does anyone have an expert opnion on this?