| QUOTE (Orcishwarrior @ Jul 22 2007, 01:30 AM) |
| Alenia Aermacchi is meanwhile seeking its first export sale of the M-346, |
| QUOTE (diCam @ Jul 23 2007, 01:02 PM) |
| I think the Korean's T-50 stand a good chance. This aircraft is designed, developed and build with technical and technology input from Lockheed Martin. It is designed for lead-in trainer for F16 and F15 and possibly F35. To give confidence to potential customers the Korean Air Force already placed order for this trainers. The last I read, the Javelin is not even flying yet. |
| QUOTE (kanzer @ Jul 23 2007, 01:22 PM) |
| so far the t-50 has secured orders from indonesia and turkey.....the manufacturer will no doubt be bringing in a strong lineup in the singapore air show next year.... |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Jul 23 2007, 02:33 PM) | ||
Not the T-50s, the koreans sold the basic trainer KT-1 |
| QUOTE (diCam @ Jul 23 2007, 06:08 PM) |
| so far no advanced trainer come with twin engines leh :rolleyes: |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Jul 23 2007, 11:15 AM) |
| These are to be based in France? And used as LIFT as well? Wouldn't the IAI Javelin make more sense, considering the amount of israeli systems in the RSAF F-16s and possibly F-15SG? Simulated weapons training is a plus or minus, depending on your POV |
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| The specs sure look impressive but the aircraft is too new. Not even in production stage yet. Will RSAF cast a long shot to select this untested trainer? :rolleyes: |
| QUOTE (Callsign 24 Seira) |
| ...& certification in '08 before commercial release .....may take some time before export sales are secured, so most likely theIAF will utilise them first...he Javelin have startd flight testing since 2005 |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Jul 24 2007, 09:43 AM) | ||
Well, we know RSAF will take risk We are afterall the launch customer for PC-21 ;) |
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IAF as a launch customer would be a strong vote of confidence |
| QUOTE (Mk84 @ Jul 24 2007, 11:47 PM) |
| The Javelin does not give me the impression of an aircraft with long endurance, moreover the thin wings would means that it would not gave good low speed handling capability |
| QUOTE (kotay @ Jul 25 2007, 10:19 AM) |
| Depends on how multi-role you wish the AJT to be ... it may have thin wings but then again it's a small plane. Overall wing loading will still be within the parameters of a typical fast mover. The aerodynamic profile is supposed to mimic the jets the pilots are training for ... |
| QUOTE (Callsign 24 Seira @ Oct 6 2007, 04:59 PM) |
| Fellas, any news in the air abt the replacement Advance Jet Trainer? |
| QUOTE (warspite @ Oct 6 2007, 05:05 PM) |
| Not much I guess... You will probably have to wait till next Feb at Changi for more information and details. Thats probably when the RSAF's test pilots will test out the contenders. I personally would like to see the T-50 Golden Eagle and the M346 in action. |
| QUOTE (Callsign 24 Seira @ Oct 6 2007, 04:59 PM) |
| Fellas, any news in the air abt the replacement Advance Jet Trainer? |
| QUOTE (Shotgun @ Oct 9 2007, 12:45 AM) |
| The Korean A-50 designation can be a confusing thing. A-50 reminds me of the Russian AEW... Heh. |
| QUOTE (spiderweb6969 @ Oct 8 2007, 09:36 PM) | ||
ok based on Airforce Monthly magazine dated October 2007, Singapore seeks privatised option for TA-4SU replacement. Two options, either entirely private own or government owned, contractor operated fleet. DSTA specified that the aircraft must be a certified jet type with a proven development &/or sales/customer support record. The ROI states that the avionics suite must be equivalent to that of a 4th or 5th generation fighter aircraft. i think it's going to be Hawk Mk128 lah.....im now i at a place without scanner, which means weekend lah. |
| QUOTE (spiderweb6969 @ Oct 14 2007, 09:45 PM) |
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| Korea Likely to Sell Supersonic Jets to UAE, Greece, Singapore (Source: Korea Overseas Information Service; issued Oct. 15, 2007) Korea is close to clinching contracts with Singapore, Greece, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for the sale of its T-50 Golden Eagle supersonic trainer jets, a senior defense industry official said Monday (Oct. 15). "Korea is expected to sign the deals with the three nations this month or next month," said Yoon Cha-young, executive director of the Korea Aerospace Industries Association. He said the UAE will likely procure more than 60 T-50s, while Singapore and Greece are considering buying 30 and 40 jets, respectively. Korea developed the T-50 with its own technology and each jet is priced around $20 million. Yoon, who also serves as co-chairman of the organization committee for the Seoul air show, added this year's event will serve as a "turning point" for the country's efforts to export its advanced weapons such as T-50, KT-1 Woongbi basic trainer plane, XK-2 tank, K-9 self-propelled howitzer, and Cheonma self-propelled surface-to-air missile. "For more than 20 years, shipbuilding, automobiles, and information technology products have been Korea's major export items. But from now on, the defense industry will emerge as our main export field," Yoon said during a press briefing held in Seongnam, South of seoul, on the eve of the opening of the six-day air show. He emphasized that this week's air show will be a good opportunity for Korea to market its weapons. "We expect more than $500 million worth of export contracts during the air show," he said. Officially named "Korea Aerospace & Defense Exhibition 2007," this year's show brings together 256 defense firms from 26 countries. "In particular, only 86 of the participants, or 30 percent, are domestic companies, with the rest coming from foreign nations," said Yoon, formerly an Air Force brigade general. Korea has hosted the event, which is becoming Asia's largest defense fair, every two years since 1996. To be displayed include the F-15C and F-16C fighter jets and A-10 anti-tank aircraft of the U.S., AH-64 Apache chopper, K-135 tanker, as well as South Korea's F-15K and KF-16 aircraft. |
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Wow, this is indeed good news ! Just one point though...who's the Service provider (Advance Jet Training)? |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Oct 9 2007, 05:03 PM) |
| similar to the version they got on the RAF Tornados? |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Oct 22 2007, 11:56 PM) |
| There might be a possbility that the FA-50 version will become a candidate for the F-5 replacement. |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Oct 23 2007, 09:16 AM) |
| The F-16 is not the prime export anymore with E/F-18 and JSF coming up USAF itself is not going beyond blk52+ and there's hardly any ripple when LM announced the possibility of F-16NG But you raised a very important point - the FA-50 is not as good as the F-16, but again neither is the F-5 that it's replacing in the ROKAF. But if the role of the F-5 is to be maintained, a 22Mil FA-50 is still a better buy than a 50Mil F-16blk52+ |
| QUOTE (spiderweb6969 @ Oct 23 2007, 09:26 AM) | ||
Why should RSAF buy something thats not better than what they already have? i thought the F15SG is to replace the A4SU, and the JSF is to replace the F5S? and i always thought that if there is any delay to the JSF they will only increase the F15SG..... beside, how many countries would want a FA18 E/F? other than the US, Australia and a maybe Malaysia (who may prefer the SU30 due to limitation impose by the US)....and how many countries would be allowed to buy the JSF.... |
| QUOTE (MilFan @ Oct 23 2007, 09:16 AM) |
| Thats why FA-50 is using the Selex AESA instead ... The F-16 is not the prime export anymore with E/F-18 and JSF coming up USAF itself is not going beyond blk52+ and there's hardly any ripple when LM announced the possibility of F-16NG But you raised a very important point - the FA-50 is not as good as the F-16, but again neither is the F-5 that it's replacing in the ROKAF. But if the role of the F-5 is to be maintained, a 22Mil FA-50 is still a better buy than a 50Mil F-16blk52+ |
