Here's what the Terrex BMS looks like.

Terrex Mobility Demo

Terrex demonstrates simulated engagement using BMS

Aiya......... :ph43r:

Camping here... :D

Finally! The cat is out of the bag

Vids are up.

What was said about the 7 man section? Couldn't really catch that part. Did they say how the Terrex is deployed among units? Is it a pooled asset?

Each of the digitised SIRs will get their own complement of Terrex ICVs of 45 vehicles.

Initial intent is to equip one brigade (i.e. 3 x SIRs). This is Spiral One. SAF always creeps its purchases one. See: Leo2 purchases.

Seven variants: Troop carrier, command post, armoured engineer, armoured ambulance, ATGM, STORM (strike observer mission), and RSTA (recce, surveillance, target acquisition).

Many thanks to HQ 9 DIV/INF for hosting me that morning, and especially to COMD 9 DIV, COL Lim Hock Yu, for backtracking three slides as I came in late for the briefing. I appreciate the gesture though I didn't say it that morning.

I'm grateful to LTC Oh BS, the Terrex Project team from STK and DSTA for the briefing, and to Warrant Peter who was Terrex VC.

It was a fine demo. I walked away with a deeper understanding of Terrex. BMS has evolved much faster than I expected and is a game changing asset.


Sorry will update more tmr. Quite late and have several meetings with Sentosa Development Corp tmr.... :(

Hmm seems from the second video that one of the versions (Command Post?) will have a 40mm AGL and 7.62 GPMG in a remote controlled turret? 45 per Battalion is only enough for about half the men, maybe 2 rifle coys + Bn HQ if you are pushing it?

hmmm why didn't they keep the Broncos for the AE? I'm sure they would need the space.

SHould be for the Infantry Carrier version? 7 versions. Wonder if all versions will be displayed for open house? Seems almost like our very own Stryker brigade liao. Difference being still got to share.

Doesn't it suggest that 9 Div could be the digitised division instead of 3rd Div? Hmmm...

Wonder the SRAM mortar version isn't in the list? Surprised to see an ATGM version though.

Surprised to see ATGM variant as well. Now they have better anti-armour capability than AI? :blink:

Thanks for the links, CJ. The video quality of the cameras in the Terrex were quite startling.

These are for the Pioneer platoon in the restructured SIR battalions.

Ah Shucks! I was hoping a Mobile Gun Platform version is available! :P

Imagine the Shock & Awe effect to the ground troops it is supporting vis-a-vis to the enemy troops when one just speedily drove up around a corner and fire off a 105mm round in the face of the enemy. Talk about stealth and surprise!

Hmmm.... I think 45 is enough for one battalion. Each A, B, C coy needs around 12 vehicles. Most prob the non essential personnels (CQ, storemen, clerks) will have to travel by tonners or jeeps.

http://www.stengg.com/upload/920fO1gS8hPSSObHe4Y.pdf

The recovery and mortar version in the brochure is thus replaced by the RSTA and STORM versions.

I also noted from suggestions in other forums that 3 SIR under 10 SIB will likely be the first regt. This supports 9 DIV as the first "digitised" div. Not surprising as the other divs already have the bionix.

1. These are the declared variants.

2. It would not be too hard to imagine armour having a armoured ATGM platform.

3. Now that Terrex is out, don't forget the real SM1 replacement (not Leo 2s).

+1

ive heard some speculation about that the mortar version will be bronco based. why not the pioneer one as well ? quite surprised at this. where got room for the stores ?

i hope the pioneer terrex version has a mine flail or shovel.

Interesting update. From V200s and handheld PDAs to Terrex and BMS.

45 vehicles is more than enough for the infantry battalion. The rest are still moving around in tonners during mounted ops.

How about an article on the new infantry orbat, new ballastics vests, etc, and the future of Guards units.

I supposed that AE variant of the Terrex means a AVLB Terrex. I suppose that might change or add to the pioneers role in a SIR.

Say, no more STB ???

already got the BX variant of the AVLB...do not see the need for a terrex AVLB....

would tend to go with the view of CJ...currently the pioneers are riding on the m113...maybe they are slowing phasing out the older m113?

Terrex engineer version is for the pioneer platoon and is the recovery version of Terrex.

Ermmm, the pioneers now go to battle on foot after debusing from the 5 tonners. The Pioneer Terrex will be for them.

Similarly, the ATGM platoon which now uses LSVs will swap these for Terrex ATGM.

Try to visualise a SIR battalion scaling up into Motorised Infantry and the assets that they would need for this transformation.

Armoured Engineers is a separate issue.

The Terrex in the video had a 40mm/7.62mm RWS. There's also a 12.7mm HMG version with no co-axial.

The 40mm is the one that comes with the magnetic coil thingy to programme the air burst rounds.

btw, the sniper location whassit can automatically slew the RWS to the approximate direction of the firer. It can also transmit the range, elevation and azimuth (in other words, firing data) to other vehicles.

huh? uncle 5-2 was already riding in M113 many many moons ago...

But uncle 5-2 wasn't from an SIR unit mah.

Look at the MT line of 1 SIR, 2 SIR, 4 SIR, 5 SIR - excluding 3 SIR (UO Bn) and 6 SIR (POI Bn). You won't see any A vehicles there.

The SIRs are transforming into Motorised Infantry, hence the Terrex and its variants for SIR units, not SAR units or offshoots of 38 SCE.

Also not counted is the PDF unit that uses V-200s from ASU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejbuOLCJ_J4

+1 :wub:

real engineer unkers ride in v200 :lol:

presently armour spike platoons are mounted on Broncos...the Broncos serve as mere transports, they have to dismount and set up the Spikes somewhere...hence I'm guessing the Terrex ATGM will have the ATGM mounted in place of the turret?

hehe, the MLC30 B)

Just saw the video showing shots from the Terrex BMS...i must say outwardly it looks v different from those used in the BX... :ph43r:

CNA says that the SAF "plans to acquire at least 150 of the Terrex Infantry Carrier Vehicles".

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/sin...1002552/1/.html

Do you guys get heart palpitations watching such stuff? :)

you are back...so how is the earthquake?

you mean the machines.... or otherwise????

Nice to see the Terrex in action at last. :)

obviously "otherwise"...the breast must be bouncing all over.....

Definitely looks better than the prototype... :P

dont think so. doctrinal shift ? battlefield taxi. not battlefield chariot/tank. getting the infantry as close as possible, fast, secure and as quiet as possible to the front to fight. it isnt meant to put the AI or BXs out of a job.

will it eventually spiral out to the reservists ? im excited.

The front part of the unveiled terrex seems different from the prototypes we have been seeing so far. It's curved in the prototypes but sloped in these. Probably to allow add-on armour since it'll be more complicated to mount armour on curved surfaces?

45 vehs per Bn seems about right. We had similar numbers when we were motorised on the M113. For the HQ side, Bv206s were used on top of the M113s.

Regarding the ATGM version of the terrex, it's probably just an additional option given to the infantry Bns. In my unit, the ATGM teams went dismounted quite alot even though they had the jeep, and less often, the LSVs.

Looking at the amount of electronics in these vehs, it seems they gonna be maintenance-intensive!